Comments on: My Vegan Trial http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/ spiritual awakening and enlightenment in today's world Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:08:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Enrique http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-23127 Enrique Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:33:05 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-23127 I´been a vegan for 3 days now and I´m already feeling better. I´been a vegan for 3 days now and I´m already feeling better.

]]> By: jon http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22075 jon Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:08:03 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22075 @Margreet: I definitely take your point about balance, and all intelligent vegans DO take supplements. The one essential nutrient that can't be had on a strict vegan diet is vitamin B-12. Modern research has pretty much confirmed that protein, calcium and most other nutrients are easily met from vegetable sources as long as one eats a wide variety of plant foods. That said, I'm not a strict vegan... Had some jalapeno cream cheese today. It was great. @Frank: I responded to you via email. @Josh: Frimmin'! Mindfulness is a great antidote to mindlessness! I should make it a point to practice that more often! @Margreet: I definitely take your point about balance, and all intelligent vegans DO take supplements. The one essential nutrient that can’t be had on a strict vegan diet is vitamin B-12. Modern research has pretty much confirmed that protein, calcium and most other nutrients are easily met from vegetable sources as long as one eats a wide variety of plant foods.

That said, I’m not a strict vegan… Had some jalapeno cream cheese today. It was great.

@Frank: I responded to you via email.

@Josh: Frimmin’! Mindfulness is a great antidote to mindlessness! I should make it a point to practice that more often!

]]> By: Josh http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22062 Josh Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:07:18 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22062 over the last few months i've also been reducing my meat and dairy intake more and more. it has made my mind feel clearer and my body lighter which has effected my ability to focus and be thankful. it has had a lot to do with consciously accepting God's presence while i'm eating. for my entire life, i would just brainlessly or "spiritlessly" eat whatever was put in front of me. it's become a new discipline to eat how my spirit desires and not my flesh. thanks for posting your experience and thoughts! it's encouraging to read. over the last few months i’ve also been reducing my meat and dairy intake more and more. it has made my mind feel clearer and my body lighter which has effected my ability to focus and be thankful.
it has had a lot to do with consciously accepting God’s presence while i’m eating. for my entire life, i would just brainlessly or “spiritlessly” eat whatever was put in front of me. it’s become a new discipline to eat how my spirit desires and not my flesh.

thanks for posting your experience and thoughts! it’s encouraging to read.

]]> By: Frank http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22050 Frank Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:27:25 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22050 I have a friend who wants to make some meditation tapes with music in the background. Does anyone know how to do this? I have a friend who wants to make some meditation tapes with music in the background. Does anyone know how to do this?

]]> By: Margreet http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22038 Margreet Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:47:11 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22038 Congratulations Jon! 6 pounds weight loss and a drop in blood pressure is a wonderful achievement in such a short time. Please don't go too fast on the weight loss to avoid the dreaded yo-yo effect! I pray your cholestrol levels have dropped too. I remember a little discussion a year or so ago in which I pointed out that US dairy/meat products are banned in Europe because they contain too many harmfull hormones (both for cows and humans). It's also true that consumption of dairy/meat is a strain on our environment. That is planetwide, so European husbandry is just as much to blame for that important aspect. I see the wisdom of various religious traditions of fasting, but mostly from an anthropological point of view. Right now I'm reading a book by a Dutch author who spend a lot of time in Papoea New-Guinnea and describes in detail what these people had for dinner. There wasn't a lot of meat on the menu. And even peoples who did ate a lot of meat had to spend a great deal of energy to get it. As a child, I grew up in post-war Europe and there wasn't a lot of meat to begin with. We had it two or three times a week. At the same time, the Dutch government subsidized a plan to give milk to every child under 12 every schoolday. It prevented a lot of deficiency ailments, like rickets. I personnaly don't think a strictly vegan diet is a good idea. You would have to take supplements to make up for the nutrients you only get from dairy products and meat. It's in my opinion a question of balance. Grains, greens and fruit should be the major part of the diet, but we can't be healthy without the full range of fats and proteins and a number of minerals you won't get from plants. Even Tibetan Buddhists drink Yak milk! I wish you the best of health Congratulations Jon! 6 pounds weight loss and a drop in blood pressure is a wonderful achievement in such a short time.
Please don’t go too fast on the weight loss to avoid the dreaded yo-yo effect! I pray your cholestrol levels have dropped
too.

I remember a little discussion a year or so ago in which I pointed out that US dairy/meat products
are banned in Europe because they contain too many harmfull hormones (both for cows and humans).

It’s also true that consumption of dairy/meat is a strain on our environment. That is planetwide, so
European husbandry is just as much to blame for that important aspect.

I see the wisdom of various religious traditions of fasting, but mostly from an anthropological point of view. Right now
I’m reading a book by a Dutch author who spend a lot of time in Papoea New-Guinnea and describes in detail what these
people had for dinner. There wasn’t a lot of meat on the menu. And even peoples who did ate a lot of meat had to spend
a great deal of energy to get it.

As a child, I grew up in post-war Europe and there wasn’t a lot of meat to begin with. We had it two or three times a week.
At the same time, the Dutch government subsidized a plan to give milk to every child under 12 every schoolday. It prevented
a lot of deficiency ailments, like rickets.

I personnaly don’t think a strictly vegan diet is a good idea. You would have to take supplements to make up for the nutrients
you only get from dairy products and meat. It’s in my opinion a question of balance. Grains, greens and fruit should be the major
part of the diet, but we can’t be healthy without the full range of fats and proteins and a number of minerals you won’t get from plants.
Even Tibetan Buddhists drink Yak milk!

I wish you the best of health

]]> By: jon http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22003 jon Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:51:53 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22003 @Frank, Thanks a lot. It did. @Frank, Thanks a lot. It did.

]]> By: jon http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-22002 jon Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:51:05 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-22002 @Ali, Thanks! @Heath, It will be if you just remember to keep treating your body as a holy vessel after Lent, as well. @Ali, Thanks!

@Heath, It will be if you just remember to keep treating your body as a holy vessel after Lent, as well.

]]> By: Frank http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-21994 Frank Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:39:56 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-21994 Hey Jon, Good job leading and inspiring us to live at a higher level of health and consciousness. I pray that your trip brings healing... Hey Jon,
Good job leading and inspiring us to live at a higher level of health and consciousness. I pray that your trip brings healing…

]]> By: heath_edw http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-21986 heath_edw Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:17:53 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-21986 well done, indeed. as lent begins, i'm looking at going vegan for about 40 days. i did this last year, and it really was an enjoyable time... of course, when it ended, and i lost my motivation, things went rapidly downhill, and i put on all the lost weight. maybe, afterwards, this year will be different... well done, indeed. as lent begins, i’m looking at going vegan for about 40 days. i did this last year, and it really was an enjoyable time…
of course, when it ended, and i lost my motivation, things went rapidly downhill, and i put on all the lost weight.
maybe, afterwards, this year will be different…

]]> By: Ali http://frimmin.com/2009/02/21/my-vegan-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-21972 Ali Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:23:51 +0000 http://frimmin.com/?p=421#comment-21972 Good move, mate! Ali from Australia Good move, mate!

Ali from Australia

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